Re:Idol - 2008/09/02 23:52 Well, she's not dumped from Sony, completely, as such (not yet , anyway) - she's still under her contract - but the new album has been dumped, so at the moment, she's what's referred to as a "still product". Record companies sign you to them, and then you're "employed" to do various things as part of that - chat shows and PR is one of those "duties". You work on music, make your album, etc, but they're under no obligation to release it.
They've decided the one she completed for them wont sell - so they've pulled the rug, after it was basically finished and ready to go.
I will not reveal sources, but I can guarantee you it's true.
I suspect what will happen, at best, is they will offer her a release under something different (probably more covers) and she will be desperate enough to say yes. But that's being optimistic, perhaps. I'll let you know, if that changes and I hear anything.
Not only are the fans the last to know, but, perhaps cruelly (but it's the way it goes) the actual artist knows way after the company does. They walk in, smiling, not realising everyone knows they're dumped. It's a nasty little business, really, but that's how it works.
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Re:Idol - 2008/09/03 00:20 aaron wrote: Well, she's not dumped from Sony, completely, as such (not yet , anyway) - she's still under her contract - but the new album has been dumped, so at the moment, she's what's referred to as a "still product". Record companies sign you to them, and then you're "employed" to do various things as part of that - chat shows and PR is one of those "duties". You work on music, make your album, etc, but they're under no obligation to release it.
They've decided the one she completed for them wont sell - so they've pulled the rug, after it was basically finished and ready to go.
I will not reveal sources, but I can guarantee you it's true.
I suspect what will happen, at best, is they will offer her a release under something different (probably more covers) and she will be desperate enough to say yes. But that's being optimistic, perhaps. I'll let you know, if that changes and I hear anything.
Not only are the fans the last to know, but, perhaps cruelly (but it's the way it goes) the actual artist knows way after the company does. They walk in, smiling, not realising everyone knows they're dumped. It's a nasty little business, really, but that's how it works.
Casey Donovan was writing songs for her second album when she got the bad news. The company had made their decision weeks before. And because it comes from the top, often the Sony people they are working with don't know either.
Poor Natalie. That's really shitty. I hope a male wins this year. Female winners seem to get the run around. Or worse, they get put into a girl band.
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Re:Idol - 2008/09/03 07:24 The fact of the matter is that by now Idol should realise that maybe SonyBMG isnt the way to go, Clearly Idol has the goods to produce the talent but they need to take some responsibility, The problem is that all these innocent people get given the wrong info and the Victory is suger coated, anything to make the show look good
Personally they need to find a better record company, maybe an independant label or something more suitable for an artist in developement because lately sony australia are looking very bad, as a singer myself I would never sign with them regardless of any circumstances..
I will never forgive them for what they did to Casey Donovan, a truely talented and inspiring singer, sold the records, had the fanbase and they have a nerve to blame her for the continued lack of success
Idol and sony need to wake up to themselves!!
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Re:Idol - 2008/09/04 18:42 I quite like Wes but I feel way too old for this show whenever that Tom kid is on the screen.
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Re:Idol - 2008/09/05 13:10 joelzie wrote: The problem is that all these innocent people get given the wrong info and the Victory is suger coated, anything to make the show look good
Spot on (and welcome to PPBP!),
I have the same conversation with people, in regards to Idol, as I did with Big Brother - people always say to me, "But these kids get what the deal is, how can they be surprised?" And they don't. They're just kids from whoop-whoop, mostly, who are in the middle of this surreal experience that knows to constantly shower them in affirmation and what are ultimately hollow expectations. I think more kids are getting that now, but those young ones certainly don't - which is why this year is full of them. In the past, we've seen them hold off the young kids because they're "too young" - which is why the inclusion of Tom is actually quite symbolic of where they are.
And Billy, I think in that way, what you say is interesting because it may backfire on them for their older audiences. Idol does still rely on older audiences, because its strength over BB was always that it was a "family" show - BB lost that, about three seasons in, and we saw the impact of losing the mums and dads. Idol could now be about to go down the same path, and you can't maintain a show of that level on teenyboppers alone.
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Re:Idol - 2008/09/05 15:03 Idol has such a strange balance between the lip-service to the hip, and the bowing to moneymaking mainstream. The auditions this year have especially focussed on individuality (cause a rock or folksy stereotype is so individual compared to a pop stereotype... right...) and serious musicians. They put them through to this stage and then the whole competition gears up and everything that was praised is up for question.
The judges go on and on about song choice, but then force the ridiculous theme nights of disco or whatever. With some contestants they talk about being true to themselves and then the next person (or the same person the next week) are told they are repetitive, not diverse enough.
Whenever there is true constructive advice given it’s a bit of a surprise. As it is the judged are such a joke. Compare this to early seasons of the USA SoYouThinkYouCanDance where choreography was recognised and given props when due. Where there seemed to be at least one judge advising on technique and execution but that personal taste could still play a part.
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